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    Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 2:16pm
12 team, 5 x 5 roto, no player salaries or contracts- you can keep as long as you like. This is a first place team, with another team hot on its heels, so any trades I would make have to not ruin my slim lead...

My first 22 projected keepers are in BOLD. That leaves one more selection.  I really like Salvador Perez, but it is a 1 catcher league. De Aza is underrated, offering 5 category production. Ivan Nova is having a GREAT couple months, and is still only 26 years old. Odorizzi would be a keeper on most squads, but I think I'm too deep to keep him.

I have tried very hard to get one more stud hitter to keep, by trading away a big-time pitcher but have come up empty. I settled on trading Tyson Ross and Denard Span for De Aza the other day.

So, would you change any of my first 22, and who would be number 23?

C-  Carlos Santana/ Salvador Perez
1B- Prince Fielder
2B- Jedd Gyorko
3B- Evan Longoria
SS- Troy Tulowizki
MI- Nick Franklin
CI- Freddie Freeman
OF- Mike Trout
OF- Giancarlo Stanton/ Khris Davis
OF- Desmond Jennings/ Cameron Maybin
OF- Dexter Fowler/ Nate McLouth
U- Alejandro De Aza/ Kyle Parker
U- David Ortiz/ Joc Pederson

SP- Adam Wainwright
SP- Chris Sale
SP- Patrick Corbin
P- Matt Moore/ Dan Haren
P- Jordan Zimmerman/ Jake Odorizzi
P- Derek Holland/ Yordano Ventura
P- Tony Cingrani/ Ivan Nova
RP- Greg Holland
RP- Alex Wood (SP elig)
RP- Joe Nathan/ Mark Melancon
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  Quote lvtdude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 2:35pm
The contenders:

Ivan Nova (26y) since May 1:  77 IP, 71 K, 2.45 ERA, 1.104 WHIP, only 3 HR allowed.
Jake Odorizzi (23y)  at AAA: 116.1 IP, 113 K, 3.56 ERA, 1.18 WHIP
Alejandro De Aza (29y): on pace for .267, 18 HR, 94 R, 68 RBI, 21 SB
Salvador Perez (23y) over last 665 AB: .283, 16 HR, 70 R, 86 RBI
Kyle Parker (23y) over 439 AA AB: .282, 23 HR, 66 R, 68 RBI, 6 SB (HR totals 2010-12, 21, 23, 23, and will play in Coors...)
David Ortiz (1 million years old, but still getting it done...)
Joe Nathan (ditto Ortiz, but as a closer)
Mark Melancon (Great stats, but I don't trust most closers, let alone those who get moved from team to team)
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  Quote STEELCITY10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 3:34pm
Like Papi but he has to break down sooner or later,I know have I been saying this for 5 years now!!!...Kinda like DeAza the most helps you across the board and the .270 avg won't kill you
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  Quote Slingshots Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 7:12pm
The only thing I`d look closely at is maybe Odorizzi instead of Zimmerman. Zimm was lights out before the All Star break but since has been mediocre ( thats being nice) at best. He has a history of fading down the stretch. Just something to think about.
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  Quote lvtdude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 7:19pm
Zimmerman has been going through a pretty rough stretch, but rough stretches happen. He's still 14-7, with a 3.37 ERA and 1.11 WHIP on the season. He has a nearly 4 to 1 K to BB ratio, too. Dropping him for an unproven Odorizzi is a crazy idea, to be honest. I could easily trade him away for someone much better.


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  Quote LABLUE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 11:14pm
Nathan over Holland if I even want to keep a closer.
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  Quote lvtdude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Aug 2013 at 12:25am
Wow, really? Holland is 27 years old. Nathan is 38. Holland has better numbers and as far as I know, no injury history.

I like Nathan a lot, but his velocity is about 2 mph down this season, and his walk rate is much higher than usual. His ERA is great, but his FIP is much higher. His BABIP is only .225, which is 40 points lower than his career. I think he's been quite lucky this season.

I'm not in love with keeping a closer, but Holland is performing as well as Craig Kimbrel, and better than Chapman.
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  Quote LABLUE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Aug 2013 at 1:35am
I still take Nathan next year on Tex over Holland on KC. But really would not keep a closer if I did not have to. Rather get a prospect then draft closers.
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  Quote LABLUE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Aug 2013 at 1:39am
All I care about with closers is saves year after year and job security. Why I like Nathan better. Any given year a bad team like KC can get alot of saves but I will take the teams with better records over bad records when looking for saves overall. Texas 11 more wins than KC right now and will probably be much more when it is over. I think they will win ore next year also.
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