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    Posted: 01 Dec 2007 at 8:54pm
I didn't watch a single play in the West Virginia-Pitt game, but is that the greatest choke in the college history? And you can't blame the entire thing on Pat White's injury. West Virginia's offense should have rolled even without White.

One thing this season taught us: don't EVER be overconfident. If you think Stanford or Pitt or Syracuse or Appalachian State is going to be easy, think again.

The worst thing - BY FAR - in this crazy season is we're going to see the same 'ol teams in the finals. I can't predict what the BCS will look like tomorrow, but there's probably a better chance of seeing LSU or Oklahoma against the Buckeyes than KU/Georgia, who couldn't even win their divisions. Does Virginia Tech get in? At least that would be somewhat novel, although not as fun as seeing.

It's sad - West Virginia vs. Missouri would have been an entertaining national championship. As it is, I'll probably be skipping the Buckeye loss on January 18th, or whenever that championship is. Sigh.
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If there was ever a time for the voters to punish the Big 10 'champ', OSU, for not having to play a title game, this would be it.
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  Quote herbilk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2007 at 3:18pm
What's the reasoning behind punishing the Big 10 for not having a title game?  Those other conferences set that up just so that they could get a big payday at the end of the season.  It was their decision to take the money and have a title game, no one forced them to add that game. 

Saying that OSU didn't have to play a title game seems silly.  No one has to play a title game.  Those conferences just wanted to get more money so they created a title game.  I have no sympathy for them if they now whine because it affects their team's chances of playing in the BCS Championship.
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  Quote ESiegrist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2007 at 4:52pm
Mizzou, WVU, LSU, etc. all had to risk one more upset in the Year of the Upset, while OSU sat on the sideline and coasted into contention.
 
I don't care why the title games exist. I just don't think a school should be able to back into a national championship shot by avoiding playing a game. If OSU had gone into this weekend already ranked at #1, fine, put them in the title game. But they didn't.
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  Quote schoenke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2007 at 5:48pm
Dang, the BCS matchups are going to make it tough to get a split national championship. I guess that's why they didn't do USC vs. OK or GA. Maybe if HI wins they'll get some votes.
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  Quote herbilk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2007 at 6:37pm
West Virginia didn't play a conference title game, they just finished out their schedule against a crummy Pitt team.  I'm assuming that even if they had beaten Pitt that you would have suggested the voters "punish" WV because they didn't play a title game.
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  Quote kennruby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Dec 2007 at 7:10pm
Even as an unapolgetic Buckeye hater (who unfortunately lives in Buckeye country), I can't really see "punishing" them for not playing a title game. They won their conference, as did LSU, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma. Those other teams just took one extra game to clinch it. West Virginia and USC won their conferences too, by the way.

One of the ESPN wonks had a great observation: Notre Dame has a longer active winning streak right now than either of the two championship teams. Wow.

As for Hawaii, I think I saw they got a first-place vote in one of the polls. I think if they win in January they *could* get all the way up to #2 in the polls, but it's unlikely.


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  Quote ESiegrist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 7:35am
Oops. Meant V-Tech, not WVU. And yeah, I would lump them in with OSU. It's like giving out Olympic gold in the hurdles when one lane contains fewer hurdles than the rest.
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  Quote herbilk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 8:46am
That analogy fails when you consider that those runners added the extra hurdle themselves, totally on their own.  I'm guessing if that really did happen in the Olympics, no one would have any sympathy for the runners who decided to make things tougher for themselves by throwing out an extra hurdle. 
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  Quote Erickson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 11:27pm
The Big Ten (and the Pac 10, for that matter) *can't* have a conference championship game. You need to have at least 12 teams in your conference to be allowed to have such an animal. So unless you think that they should have raided another conference or pushed even harder to get Notre Dame, your desire to see them punished is misplaced.
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